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PostSubject: What are you doing for Passover?   Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:47 pm

Any big plans? Do you host a seder?
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:17 am

We're going to the community seder at the synagogue (first night), and then to a small seder at a friend's home (second night).
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:25 pm

Our community seder is on the second night, which we'll probably do. I'm not sure where I am going the first night.
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:33 pm

Ours is normally on the second night as well, I don't know why they changed it this year.
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:37 pm

Does your wife go with you for both? My husband only goes to the community seder (so far anyway). Last year I knew the first night was going to be...intense. It's a casual seder but it was the hosts first Pesach in 30 years without his wife and it was her favorite holiday. It was kinda heartbreaking watching him have to do it without her. Crying or Very sad I only met her once or twice but I've been told she was a wonderful woman who when she spoke to you, she made you feel like you were the center of her universe for that moment. I wish I had been able to know her better.

I'll probably go to the same place this year since I know the people. One of the ladies who does a lot of the cooking is a vegetarian too so she always makes vegetarian dishes. I'm just not sure yet since I haven't asked anyone.
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:50 pm

Yes, she'll go with me to both, as will all of the kids.

We just did the community seder last year. The Shabbat before Purim was my first visit to the synagogue last year, and we hadn't really met many people by Pesach.

My wife comes for all the holidays, as well as pot luck (the first Friday of the month) and just about every special occasion. And she has really become part of the community while working at the synagogue; my claim to fame is being her husband.

Auto-correct on this phone is really getting on my nerves right now; we need a Hebrew app for it I think.
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:33 pm

James wrote:


My wife comes for all the holidays, as well as pot luck (the first Friday of the month) and just about every special occasion.

That's great!!! I've been easing my husband into things very slowly. He's gone to a couple seders and the night of Rosh Hashanah. I don't expect him to take off work for the daytime stuff. I was going to ask him to come with me Kol Nidre service this year but it looks like we may be in California. I might have to drive really far, or stay home and fly out to meet him afterward. It's fantastic that your wife participates. Thumps Up
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:04 pm

We hadn't planned on her getting this involved, but after she took the job the community fell in love with her. I do enjoy having her with me for things though, and I think if we get the right rabbi she might be willing to get even more involved.

It great that your husband is going as well. Even if it is just occasionally, it shows an interest in what you hold to be important.
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:15 pm

Debating between hosting two seders or going to Chabad the first night (but they are $45 a person!!!).
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:40 pm

maculated wrote:
Debating between hosting two seders or going to Chabad the first night (but they are $45 a person!!!).

I am so not up for hosting yet. I was invited to the home of the only other Jewish person I know who lives on my side of town. My husband said he wants to go too, so guess he's going. Our community seder is $25 each so I think maybe I'll just go since he's going with me the first night. I imagine a seder at Chabad to be very very very long..am I correct?
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:42 pm

Count yourselves lucky - the community Seder tickets here in NYC are $100! :)
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:10 pm

Esf - but are your seders nice? Chabad seder is lukewarm brisket and chicken broth . . . if it was good, maybe.

Dena, actually, I always get the sense that the Chabad rabbi doesn't think the ritual stuff is very cool so he flies right through it. Our home seder is long, but that's because we spend time making it awesome.

I don't think seder hosting is really that scary. Even if you don't know the ritual stuff, there are good haggadot that explain everything. Cooking could be, but it depends on your audience. :)
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:12 pm

They are very nice yes.. I wouldn't ever spend that much on a meal normally, but it was definitely worth it last year :)
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PostSubject: Springhill Avenue Temple Seder-First night   Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:53 am

I really appreciate the haroset being a disabled VET/Construction Laborer. This year I looked forward to singing Had Gadyah. The Symbolism of the number glasses of wine was fresh in my mind; as well as for the Matzos. Pesach, Matzah and Maror.
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:22 pm

Chabad (coming from someone who has family who are Chabadniks) whiz through a lot of the Seder because their community Seders are for Kiruv and they don't think that most secular Jews will sit through an entire Seder, particularly in Hebrew. They generally have a second Seder after for their family and any observant Jews they might know there. If you watch carefully, you'll even see that they don't eat most of the food since it is gebrokts and made mainly for the sake of the secular Jews who would not want to eat a gebrokts-free Pesach meal.

Chabad home Seders are very long and filled with the "ritual stuff." Very Happy What you're seeing is the Chabad Rabbi having to play to the lowest common denominator. To him, likely, getting people to attend something who likely otherwise wouldn't, is more important than getting them through an entire Seder.

I skipped the community Seder this year (long story), but dh and the kids went and had fun. We hosted our own Seder the second night and it was wonderful. :)

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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:25 pm

My sister-in-law came to visit from Sunday through today.

First night we went to a seder at the home of friends who have had us over for many holiday meals over the 17 years we've known them. They use the Maxwell House coffee hagadah and more than once their seders have finished after midnight. Sometimes it is because Pesach is late in the spring, so candle-lighting is late and the hostess is always running late with the preparations for strictly kosher meal with 2 meats and more than a dozen other dishes (no exaggeration!). She was so relieved the year that my kitchen became strictly kosher including completely separate or kashered kitchenware for Pesach because then she could accept my offer to make and bring some food such as a couple of vegetable dishes in addition to dessert (I used to buy an expensive kosher for Passover cake---now I have my daughter make one for us to bring).

This year, Pesach is "early", so it started earlier at night and she had us come about an hour before candle-lighting so that we could help even with polishing her heirloom candlesticks in addition to the table-setting that we usually end up helping her with. It was a smaller group with only her cousin and our family as guests so there was less time-consuming discussion and we finished everything by 10:45pm---a record by a long-shot.

We attended first day services at our "tiny minyan" where my daughter gave a very insightful d'var Torah about why she thinks God allowed the Hebrews to not circumcise their sons without punishment for the 40 years in the wilderness despite that being such an important commandment and sign of the Covenant. Unfortunately, I can't do it justice, but I'll only say that it was made more amazing by the fact that she came up with the d'var only the night before (we had only promised the service organizer that "someone" in our family to provide the d'var) and delivered in emulation of her father without any notes at all. "Shepping naches!"

We hosted a second night seder at our home. Our guests were a minyan friend who knew my SIL when our friend was in rabbinical school 30 years ago, and a family whose two children are the same age and good friends with our children. We've known them since our older kids who are now in college were in kindergarten. This means that we had exactly a (egalitarian) minyan---another "small" seder. My favorite part of the second seder was learning an amusing English version of "Echad Mi Yodea" (with audio)
Here are the words for the English version: "One is Hashem" lyrics
Here is YouTube video of just a few of the verses to give you an idea of how it goes:
"One is Hashem" video

Second day of Pesach we went to services at my primary minyan. There were only about half the number of people who attend a typical Shabbat morning service and many of those came in quite late due to: (a) many families being out of town to spend the holiday with relatives (b) people sleeping in after staying up late for two nights in a row for seders (not to mention the late nights that many of them put into pre-Pesach house-cleaning and conversion of kitchens t kosher-for-Passover.) In my lay-led minyanim, when we are wrapping the Torah, we will often sing some Hebrew (or occasionally English) song related to the parashah---it is typically a spontaneous thing that someone just starts singing. For the wrapping of the second Torah, someone started singing the Hebrew version of "Echad Mi Yodea" from "Shloshah asar mi yode’a?" and we sang it on down to "shebashamayim u’va’aretz".
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PostSubject: Re: What are you doing for Passover?   Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:34 pm

@Debbie B - Wow...I think I got tired just reading through all that. Yasher Koach!!! Very Happy

I have to admit...this was a tough Pesach for me and I was pretty down during the holiday, up until our own Seder the second night. However, once we got into the Seder and the kids got into things and we were singing...I felt so much better.

Anyhow, I enjoyed reading your run down of all the events. It sounds like a wonderful holiday with friends and family.

Oh...we used 3 different Haggadahs. The kids had the Artscroll children's haggadah, we (the grownups) used the family haggadah and we also supplemented from an old "Archaeological Haggadah" that dh had growing up. It was neat looking at some of the pictures of artifacts from the period as we went through the Seder. Very Happy
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