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PostSubject: Updates   Fri May 04, 2012 6:34 pm

Hi, again :)

I'm just popping in for a wee update on my situation. I'm returning to Copenhagen in a short while so I'm nearing a time when I can begin working with a rabbi towards conversion.

I'm left with a choice between a Reform or an Orthodox conversion. For me both has negative and positive sides, but by far one of my biggest issues is the egalitarian issue. I'm a feminist and I don't want to have to say I'm not to obtain an Orthodox conversion. But I also believe that Torah is inherently divine - but that approaches to it changed over time and that's valuable too. I guess the perfect middle ground would be Conservative, which is what I originally wanted to do, but sadly can't in Denmark.

Once I get back I'm definitely going to visit with both congregations so I can see where I feel most at home. I think maybe that's what counts the most.

I'm also considering going back to uni to study Hebrew (joint with the history/science of religion) although that's not completely certain yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Updates   Fri May 04, 2012 7:51 pm

The conservative movement accepts reform conversions if the rituals of conversion have been followed.

Period of study
Beit Din
Mikvah

The Reform movement has many levels of observance and many views on Torah.

I had a conversion that was with an unaffiliated Rabbi and on my Beit Din were Reform, Conservative and Unaffiliated Rabbis.

I am accepted by the local Reform and Conservative movements.

I would not have undergone an orthodox conversion even if that path would have been open to me because I cannot be a part of a movement I see as being very unfair not accepting of women or the other movements.

As to Hebrew I found the best place in my area to study Hebrew was at my Reform Temple.

Just remember that the Reform movement is not a monolith of belief and there are so many opinions among Jews.



SaraK wrote:
Hi, again :)

I'm just popping in for a wee update on my situation. I'm returning to Copenhagen in a short while so I'm nearing a time when I can begin working with a rabbi towards conversion.

I'm left with a choice between a Reform or an Orthodox conversion. For me both has negative and positive sides, but by far one of my biggest issues is the egalitarian issue. I'm a feminist and I don't want to have to say I'm not to obtain an Orthodox conversion. But I also believe that Torah is inherently divine - but that approaches to it changed over time and that's valuable too. I guess the perfect middle ground would be Conservative, which is what I originally wanted to do, but sadly can't in Denmark.

Once I get back I'm definitely going to visit with both congregations so I can see where I feel most at home. I think maybe that's what counts the most.

I'm also considering going back to uni to study Hebrew (joint with the history/science of religion) although that's not completely certain yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Updates   Sat May 05, 2012 10:06 pm

SaraK wrote:
Hi, again :)

Once I get back I'm definitely going to visit with both congregations so I can see where I feel most at home. I think maybe that's what counts the most.


Good idea. There are of course people within the Reform movement who do believe the Torah has divine origins but if that isn't where you want to be then it isn't where you want to be. Better to wait. Thanks for updating us. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Updates   Mon May 07, 2012 9:48 am

I agree. I think you should visit both congregations and see how you fit within their views.You could even explain your concerns to both and see how they respond.

Either one will be an enlightening experience and only you will be able to determine which is best for you.

May your journey be blessed with wisdom!
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PostSubject: Re: Updates   Mon May 07, 2012 11:11 am

One thing to think about is that if you convert Reform that does not mean you only can be a part of Reform. You can be a part of any movement. The only group that won't accept you is orthodox.

I converted unaffiliated and now am a part of a reform temple. I also take part in renewal and Conservative activities.

Many of the folks I know are members of more then one community.

I don't consider myself a reform Jew, I just am a Jew.

searchinmyroots wrote:
I agree. I think you should visit both congregations and see how you fit within their views.You could even explain your concerns to both and see how they respond.

Either one will be an enlightening experience and only you will be able to determine which is best for you.

May your journey be blessed with wisdom!
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