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Dena

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PostSubject: A little confused on Brachot    A little confused on Brachot  EmptyWed Aug 22, 2012 8:08 pm

I went through the Jewish Pathways Laws of Blessings class last year and again this week. It includes food blessings. I think I have it figured out but I'm not 100% sure.

I do not eat "bread". I do not eat anything containing any sort of gluten. Ever. I do however eat rice. So this means I never say HaMotzi, correct? Also, I do not say the Grace After Meals? It would be nice if the class mentioned those who do not eat gluten but perhaps that's considered crazy talk.

They said anything with rice requires Mezonot but the OU website does not include rice. But then on their list of foods it does. So, is that a yes or no?

Let's say a regular cupcake gets Mezunot (which it does). What about a cupcake made with tapioca flour and coconut flour? Should I just go with Shehakol?

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PostSubject: Re: A little confused on Brachot    A little confused on Brachot  EmptyWed Aug 22, 2012 9:42 pm

After seeing/hearing conflicting info on rice, I asked a Modern Orthodox rabbi who has worked as a mashgiach (rabbi who certifies kosher food) about it. You are correct that one says the "mezonot" blessing over rice. But after eating rice, you don't say the "brakha acharona" with "al hamichya” as for cake or food made with one of the five grains mentioned in the Torah (wheat, barley, rye, oats, spelt), but rather the shorter "borei nefashot" bracha which is used for foods that are not "hatmotzi" or of grains in the Torah or the Biblical fruits of the land of Israel (grapes, figs, olives, dates of pomegranates) or grape wine.

My understanding is that a food must either be made of one of the five grains of the Torah or cooked rice in order to get the "mezonot" blessing. (note that corn is NOT one of the five grains) So if a cupcake does not have any of those grains, then I think does just get the "shehakol" blessing. (Interesting side note: I just checked a website and found out that since rice cakes are made by steaming rice kernels until they pop, they get the "ha adomah" bracha. This is why my husband tells me that there are "bracha competitions" in Israel like the US has English spelling bees.)

A related situation: A lot of times airplane kosher meals will have a note accompanying a dinner roll explaining how because of its ingredients or size it merits only the "mezonot" blessing, obviously to decrease the number of passengers who would then need to use the restroom to wash their hands before eating the meal.
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PostSubject: Re: A little confused on Brachot    A little confused on Brachot  EmptyWed Aug 22, 2012 9:48 pm

Debbie B. wrote:
You are correct that one says the "mezonot" blessing over rice. But after eating rice, you don't say the "brakha acharona" with "al hamichya” as for cake or food made with one of the five grains mentioned in the Torah (wheat, barley, rye, oats, spelt), but rather the shorter "borei nefashot" bracha which is used for foods that are not "hatmotzi" or of grains in the Torah or the Biblical fruits of the land of Israel (grapes, figs, olives, dates of pomegranates) or grape wine.

Okay, this is what I thought but different sites were a little conflicting.

Debbie B. wrote:
This is why my husband tells me that there are "bracha competitions" in Israel like the US has English spelling bees.)

That's funny! My head spins a little and I even get to cut out a bunch of things because I know I won't eat them.

Debbie B. wrote:
A related situation: A lot of times airplane kosher meals will have a note accompanying a dinner roll explaining how because of its ingredients or size it merits only the "mezonot" blessing, obviously to decrease the number of passengers who would then need to use the restroom to wash their hands before eating the meal.

I never would of thought of it but that's a good idea.
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